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Is this forum better than the old Yahoo list?

Is this forum better than the old Yahoo list?

There may be a better way to do topics and e-mails on the forum, but it sure doesn't seem to be as easy as the old list serve.  The only way to view new topics is to check out one of twelve items then get into them.  The old items don't disappear as they would when you delete them.  The topics so far seem to stay forever creating more clutter on the site.  With the old list serve, it seems much easier to ignore and delete items you don't wish to view.  I can reply directly OFFLIST to someone I wish to.  The new list serve doesn't even give me an e-mail address to send to.  Please don't take down the old server before there's a consensus that we're actually improving e-mail.  I'll try to post a poll as soon as I can figure out how.

More later when I can find more time.

Dan Artley in Parkton

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Re: Is this forum better than the old Yahoo list?

Dan,
The Forum has a PMB (Private Message Service) which can be used to reply directly to a user.
Click on the user name to bring up a profile and do PMS, or Click on the Messages box.  If you have a message, it will be flagged on the Messages box.

Steve

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Re: Is this forum better than the old Yahoo list?

My $0.02: I like BBCTalk a LOT better (and not 'cuz I'm the moderator). One can reply to the sender directly or reply-all to the sender plus BBCTalk. It's way more convenient than having to go to the Web site.

Janet L. Goldstein, BBC Forums Moderator
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Dan,

If you select Index, then Topic View, all of the newest/active posts should be at the top of the list. They will have a green disk http://www.baltobikeclub.org/components/com_agora/style/Neo/img/small/icon_new.png to the far left to show that there is something you haven't read.

You can select the title of the thread to read it from the beginning or you can select the little arrowhead to the left of the time/date stamp over the last posters name to read the last post made to the thread.

If none of the thread titles are appealing, then select the Topic Tools drop down and click Mark Topics Read (the only choice, currently).  When the Forum refreshes, all of the threads that had a green disk next to them will now be displayed as gray indicating it is no longer one that you haven't read.

If you want to send a message to someone "off forum", use the Private Message (PM) tool by selecting Messages | Compose (doesn't work properly at this time--I couldn't select a name after searching for the one I wanted) or if you are replying to someone's thread in a topic, select the downward pointing arrowhead under their avatar (under their post count), then select the icon that looks like an envelope and pencil http://www.baltobikeclub.org/components/com_agora/img/icons/pm.png. By doing so, you should be placed in the Compose Message mode with the person's name already filled in as the recipient of the Private Message. (this does work)


Hope this helps.

2013 mileage=12,169 miles;
2014 mileage=5,156 miles;
2015  mileage=6,200 miles;
2016 mileage=17,503 miles;

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Hi Dan
I too am finding learning to use the forums takes time. Some things will require an extra step. But there is an upside to the forums also. Remember all that whining about reading emails about "my most recent wonderful ride experience"? Or all of the vendettas that would go on forever until Janet said enough? With the forums, you don't have to wade through those kinds of emails; you just don't subscribe to the topic. With BBCTalk, you did not have that option.
I am not saying that the forums in their current configuration are unchangeable. Look at what is happening to the ride schedule and ride cue sheet library. After two months with the new web site, significant changes at the request of those members who have used the web site and compared it with cuesheetcentral.com, the best of both have been rolled into the web site.
I would ask members to work with the forums and after a few months, if there are consistent problems, let the Board hear about them. We will make changes; the last two Board meetings spent a considerable amount of time looking at the web site and making changes mostly in the ride schedule. If the forums need revisions, we can ask Will to provide the programming.
Ed Cahill

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I agree with the sentiments of Dan, Janet, and several others about the problems of the forum.  Having to go to each forum and look through the posts to see if there is anything of interest to you is time consuming.  I had all the BBCtalk email routed to my email client on my computer (Mozilla Thunderbird) and then filtered into a folder that got all the bicycling related email - from bbctalk and several other sources.  It was all there in one place for me to view.  Thunderbird will even organized it into threads like Gmail does.  I have much more powerful content search capabilities using Thunderbird and my personal archive of emails on bicycling and other topics of interest to me (all of which also has its own folder where pertinent email is delivered by filter.

One of my other hobbies is home coffee roasting.  Sweetmarias.com is a major source of information and green beans.  The have an email list.  The set up forums almost exactly like these months ago, but left the email list going also.  Almost no one is using the forums now although there was a period where people were trying them. 

For the same reasons Dan and others brought up, people just found looking at multiple forums to be a real hassle and drifted back to the email list.  Most of the people using the forums are newbies to home roasting and sadly many of their questions don't even get answered.  Some of them discover the email list, others are directed there and then they get answers.

There are some coffee sites that have been using forums for a long time they do have hundreds of old threads in their various categories - just like what Dan foresees happening here.

I have used the subscribe option on this thread to see what that brings.

Just my thoughts.

Sam

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If people find the TOPIC VIEW hard to use, there's an alternative method of reading and searching these forums--subscribe to the RSS feed at the Forum level.

You do this by clicking the RSS feed icon as shown below and when prompted use something like Google Reader to read new threads:
http://twitpic.com/show/full/19kpjm.jpg

My feeds in Google Reader:
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In Google Reader, you can search on all of your subscribed feeds all at once or individual ones.

Once you've read something in Google Reader, it falls off of the list. You would have to "star" it to keep it available in the reader. By clicking the star, you can go back to that thread whenever you feel like it.

Clicking the title of a thread in Google Reader takes you to the actual website supplying the feed, then to the thread.

2013 mileage=12,169 miles;
2014 mileage=5,156 miles;
2015  mileage=6,200 miles;
2016 mileage=17,503 miles;

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It ain't all that, but I'm really not seeing what the "difficulty" is with the new forum.

I got Isaias' post in my email inbox (as I see all the posts from this forum) same as when we were using BBCTalk.
I clicked the topic link in the email which took me to the topic view here- no searching.
I had logged in earlier and was still logged in, so I clicked reply and started typing this.

So, what was that- read, click to forum, click to reply. hmm... one more mouse click.

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Bob,

What did you do to get the forum posts in your inbox?  Are you talking about the inbox to an email client like Outlook or Thunderbird?  If so, what email program are you using?

I've been fooling around with this a good bit this afternoon and have not gotten the emails to come to my gmail account and then on into Thunderbird which could filter them into the folder where all the other bike email is placed and where bbctalk@yahoogroups email goes.

Having to go to Google Reader or some other program to get this one source of email is a PITA.   I now get it all in one place. 

Another site I recently joined (about artisan bread baking) operates on something similar to a forum basis and sends me emails with links to new content.  That isn't so great either because I still have to go somewhere to read the content and don't get it on my computer where I can establish my own personal archive.

Maybe there are options that I haven't discovered yet.

Sam Walters

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Sam,

Go here:
http://www.baltobikeclub.org/index.php? … ;Itemid=64
(this the "General Questions" forum within the "Social" main forum group)
Go to the upper right and click "forum tools"
Click Subscribe.

You will now receive all emails coming into the "General Questions" forum.
If you back up to "Ride Reports", "Volunteers", "Advocacy" and "Website Suggestions" and subscribe to them, then you've got all of the "Social" forum posts. Continue with the other root categories and you'll get every email sent to every forum.

Yes, this is also a PITA, but it is so only once.

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