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Forum format?

Forum format?

I agree with almost everyone about how nice the BBC's website is.  Calendaring, adding a ride with it's instant response is wonderful.  But the Forum is tiresome to navigate and slowly convincing me to ignore it.  All those choices and I can't view one without picking a topic.  I can switch to the topic view, but then I only get a page worth and have to wait for each next page to load.  If a topic is changed slightly, I don't see a way for you to link to the original easily, and  they're just building up in a big list that doesn't go away.  That's what archives are for.

I feel the old e-mail list was easy to manage and as much as some of us had failings with it, topics could be scrutinized by subject and deleted before reading if you wished.  Once read, it could be saved or deleted and you were done with it.  Like all e-mail they could be sorted by title, date, user name, etc.  It was easy to reply to the sender, or the whole list.  I could talk to others off list easily without having to format it as a reply through the Forum.   It was easy to set up your e-mail format so BBC talk e-mails would go into their own folder and not bother my wife unless she chose to see them. 

I suspect that others might be happy if I stopped posting to this list, and not care if I stopped reading,  but I've gotten to the point that I'm looking only once every few days or once a week when I decide to check the ride listings and oh, while I'm here, lets see whats on the Forum.  With the old list, it was my daily checking of the e-mail.  I just can't help but feel this is not helping the club.  I will keep riding and checking out what rides are on when I can make them.  It sure was great last Saturday.

Regards, and Happy trails,  Dan Artley in Parkton

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I agree to every thing you said.
Barbara

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Dan- I felt the same way you did, but then heard about an option to subscribe to all the  forum topics.  That way, each new message in any forum is delivered to your e-mail inbox.  You can then quickly scan and read the posts of interest.  If you want to reply or post, you do have to go to the web site and log in.  Click on each forum name in turn, then click on "forum tools" in the upper right hand corner.  You will get a drop down with an option to "subscribe."  You have to do this for each forum topic that you want delivered to your in box.  Tom

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I also agree 100%.

Fewer and fewer people will use the forums.  It is already clear as that this has happened as the number of messages that get sent to my email address is a small fraction of those that formerly came from BBCtalk.  And it is a pain to have to go to another program to reply.

Forums are seriously  inferior to email.

Sam

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Another problem with the forums is that a poster's e-mail address isn't available unless she remembers to include it in the post -- and nobody does. I agree with those who say BBCTalk was better, and not just because I was moderator. There's a lot  less work for a moderator to do with so little traffic on the forums, but I'd rather have BBCTalk back.

Janet L. Goldstein, BBC Forums Moderator
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Don't give up!!  Give it a chance!!

Renee and Kevin Faison
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Tomv (Valenti?) and all,

If I subscribe to all topics as you suggest, all messages come into my e-mail inbox from Baltobikeclub.org, not from any individual.  That may already limit my ability to reply to the sender and definitely limits my sorting capability.  If I do reply, there's no idea where it went as there would if it were e-mail.  Of the four replies so far, only Janet Goldstein actually identified herself (sort of the same as the old list, another of my peeves).  This just feels like some kind of soapbox to talk from that few people pay attention to as I'm hacking my patent bicycle medicine.  Maybe that's my own attitude coming through, but this forum seems so much less personal.

I would prefer a list serve or forum such as the Classic Rendezvous list, where its virtually a living room where we can talk bikes or subjects with people we know, people we'd eventually like to meet in person once we got to know them on line, not someone's impersonal pseudonym that might flame me if I write something they disagree with.

And because I may be reluctant to subscribe to all topics, I'm not getting e-mails that may be important to the club.  I used to check out all those advocacy postings when I went through my list of e-mails, but as a separate Forum topic that rarely affects me directly, its like clicking on some dancing pop up ad.  I just don't go there regularly.  I'll sign off now, I need to do something more positive.

Dan Artley feeling tongue tied in Parkton

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Dan

I grant that people have to do different things with the new forum.  I think everyone--not just you--should "subscribe" to all forums to get the same richness of content that we had with BBC talk. (I have suggested that the multiple forums be eliminated and all be rolled into one but that suggestion has not gotten much traction.  I think I am going to suggest that people start using the "Ride Changes" forum for any message they consider important since that is the only forum one can be sure that everyone signed up for.  I really want to see what Janet will do with that kind of violation!  --and, of course, we all think any message we post is very important and should get out to the whole distribution.)

Also everyone does need to identify themselves and include their email address in their postings. This can be set once and it will always be there. go to Users: My Profile: Personality: Signature and set your full name and email address as your signature and it is done.  Bug people who don't do this until we all get our user profiles up to standard. 

And, Dan, your "avatar" is really, really boring. I want to see a picture of you or something precious to you (one of your bikes?) and not the standard avatar. Snazz it up!

And this thing about needed two applications open to do the forum--your email and your browser--everyone always has both these applications open. What is the problem?  Maybe you just bought an ipad and find that you can't have your email and your browser open at the same time. OK. I should cut you slack in that one case....

I will be checking out Sherwood Gardens later today.

good seeing you on Saturday.

later

ed

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Thanks Ed, it was nice seeing you as well Saturday.  But I've now got a new reason to be steamed about the Forum.  If you like your privacy, try to google your name to see what comes up.  That was discussed this weekend, so I just tried it.  My name is now readily available for postings I've made on Baltobikeclub.org.  My club e-mails from BBC Talk were never released to the world wide web.  This is what I've been trying to avoid by not joining Facebook!!!

Dan Artley disappointed in an international lack of privacy in Parkton

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Dan Artley wrote:

f you like your privacy, try to google your name to see what comes up.  That was discussed this weekend, so I just tried it.  My name is now readily available for postings I've made on Baltobikeclub.org.  My club e-mails from BBC Talk were never released to the world wide web. 

Wow!!  I found that Google led me directly to my user page which has my e-mail address.  My user profile was not protected at all!  I googled your user name--"Dan Artley:" and saw your postings.  This should be protected.

Will: there is a gaping hole in the security of the forum!!  Can you fix it so that these problems go away?  If this is not something you can fix, please let us know that as well.  (Why not make the forum and use profiles invisible to anyone who has not signed in?  That would solve most of the problems.)

Ed Hopkins
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