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Cyclist Killed On Roland Avenue

Re: Cyclist Killed On Roland Avenue

Let's keep this discussion on topic, please, people. Leave theology out of it.

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Re: Cyclist Killed On Roland Avenue

I am a cyclist and member of the bbc. My condolences to the family and friends of the rider. But, I have seen the other side of the equation. Which is...... was he visible, (bright and electric) to the car drivers. I have driven past bicyclist and runners that I have not spotted until the last instant. They have no reflective gear or lights. When I can, I pull over, wind my window down, and yell at them, "I couldn't see you", at which point they ignore me, and soldier on.
For my 2 cents, look like a christmas tree out there. Reflective gear and LED's. If someone hits you, they are spending way too much time (while driving) on their cell phones or with a bottle. Which is a police matter. By the way, police have to get a search warrant to check your phone for text and data at the time of the incident. Stupid. 

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Front and rear lights even on sunny days should be standard equipment for all road cyclists. I want drivers never to be able to claim they didn't see me. The front light's at least as important as the rear; it makes me much easier to see as I approach an intersection.

Then there are helmets. They can't always save your life, but they can be the difference between a concussion and a skull fracture (been there, done that).  Don't waste your time rationalizing ("I'lm only heading across the parking lot to that porta-John over there"); just put on the damn helmet, and adjust it properly.

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Re: Cyclist Killed On Roland Avenue

Bob,
I think this accident happened at 2:37pm, in other words the middle of the day and the rider was in a designated bicycle lane.  Sure, when riding at dusk or night you need lights and reflective gear and white clothing but to ask for or pretend the cyclist is somehow at fault here is categorically unacceptable.  People in cars, and on bikes, need to make sure they can see before they operate their vehicle.  If you can't see, if you have the sun in your face, if there is a hill or a curve, then you need to use caution.
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On New Year's Day there will be a Memorial Ride & Vigil for Tom Palermo. For those riding, please meet at 3:30pm at Bishop Sq Pk on the NW corner of Charles & Univerity Pkwy.  After a moment of silence for Tom, the group will ride to the scene of the crash at 5700 Roland Ave to place a white ghost bike in honor of Tom.  If you don't want to do the ride, it's fine to bike or drive to this location.  My guess is the group will arrive at 5700 Roland Ave just after 4pm.  If you ride, bring lights since it gets dark early.  Incidentally, Gloria's New Year's BBC ride traverses some of the route of this Memorial Ride.  Gloria's ride should be over in time for you to do the Memorial Day Ride or meet the group at 5700 Roland Ave.
      I wish we could start 2015 on a happier note.  Bikemore, the City bicycle advocacy group, is sponsoring the Memorial Day Ride.  Although we have some differences - e.g they don't require helmets - let's come together in Tom's memory.  We will set the example by wearing our brightest colors and most powerful front and rear lights, and of course a helmet.
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Re: Cyclist Killed On Roland Avenue

Fact is, no matter what our preferences and personal comfort levels may be, he was riding lawfully within  a designated, and what seemed to be a very generous (wide) bike lane on a familiar, local road (all this, to the best of our existing knowledge...).   

As for me personally, riding pro-actively, predictably, and assertively in traffic usually makes me feel more visible and safer than any blinker or vest that I could use.  But that's just me.....   

Of course, there obviously is no perfect solution....

Edited by: Steve Feldman - Dec-29-14 10:56 pm

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Actually I agree with Phil Feldman.  Tom Palermo was riding legally on Roland Ave's wide bikelane on a dry, sunny day.  While some of us may chose to enhance our visibility with lights, we should avoid reinforcing motorist's stereotypes, that many unwritten rules apply to bicyclists. Violate one of these unwritten rules and the cyclist is automatically at fault.  Doesn't matter if the motorist was drunk, texting, or drifted into the bikelane: Unwritten Rules:
(1) Bicyclists must always use lights, even on bright sunny days (2) Cyclists are prohibited on busy roadways (3) Cyclists must always ride at the edge of the pavement (4) Cyclists may not ride in rain or after sunset, even when using lights (5) cyclists must use any bike trail within a mile (6)cyclists must wear helmets (7) cyclists must get out of motorists' way.

       I didn't mean to disparage Bikemore. I'm a dues paying member, and I like their good work in promoting cycling and getting more people to ride. Bikemore has a detailed website on how to do large rides safely. Incidentally, Former Bikemore director Chris Merriman helped me meet with City transportation officals to persuade the officals to allow sidestreet traffic crossing Reis Rd, in my Fallstaff neighborhood, to have an automatic green cycle, without having to push the pedestrian walk button. (Original plans for the Streetscape were only for cars to trigger the green).  Again, bicyclists  should work together in getting safer riding conditions and more respect from motorists.  Phil Feldman is right.  Hope to see you on the New Year's Day Memorial Ride for Tom Palermo. Incidentally the community is supportive of Tom and the need for motorists to drive responsibly.  I saw the Rally  on Channel 13's 11pm News, and Bob Wagner from the BBC said a few words.
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Re: Cyclist Killed On Roland Avenue

I met to say Steve Feldman.  Sorry for the error. Next time I should preview before sending.

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Re: Cyclist Killed On Roland Avenue

What happened to Tom Palermo makes me ponder what and why things happen generally.

Providence. Cause and effect. Confluence of events. God's will. All of the above. None of the above. Take your pick. If Bishop Cook hadn't been impaired (assuming she was), Tom would most likely be alive. He'd also be alive if he had taken a different route or arrived at the 5700 block of Roland a few seconds earlier or later.

Which begs the question: How much control do we have over what happens to us? Tom did everything right (helmet, bike lane, etc), yet still got nailed because of forces beyond his control, and possibly beyond the control of Bishop Cook, though in no way am I absolving her of responsibility for what happened.         

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Jeffrey   Marks wrote:


I met to say Steve Feldman.  Sorry for the error. Next time I should preview before sending.

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No problem, Frank...I mean Jeffrey.  BTW - the Preview function is not working on my machine (Chrome operating system), so you get a pass.

Best wishes to all for the New Year.

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