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Cycling Routes

The tragedy on Butler road has me wondering.  Does anybody know of any efforts having been made to get counties to designate some of the more heavily cycled roads as "cycling routes"? 

Simple brown signs that say "Baltimore County Cycling Route" might foster awareness that we are there, and maybe legitimize our right to be there in the minds of some of the people that think we don't belong.

The more I read about these accidents, the more I believe the problem is NOT about how cars pass us once they see us (3 ft. rule people, that's for you).  The problem is getting them to see us before they pass us.  That would mean slowing down and paying attention.

Which leads me to another question - anybody know about any bumper sticker campaigns like the motorbikes have?  You know those yellow stickers that say something like "Share the Road" or something like that?

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bbalch1 wrote:

The problem is getting them to see us before they pass us.  That would mean slowing down and paying attention.

They -may- see you earlier if you ran daytime lights bright enough to get their attention.

I'm really a firm believer of this concept.

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Gotta agree with Isaias here. Lights are cheaper, brighter and lighter weight than they've ever been and I think they have a great effect at attracting attention.

For a couple years I only ran lights at night. The more I rode, the more I realized drivers gave me a wider berth and looked me in the eye when I had lights both day and night. But, your lights need to be BRIGHT for daytime use. In today's world of distracted driving it's not enough to just be "visable". You need to be attracting the attention of drivers who aren't even looking. Sad, but true.

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Input to the Western Baltimore County Pedestrian and Bicycle Access Plan is going on now! http://www.baltimorespokes.org/article. … 5173706237

Personally I would like to see some "Bikes may use the full lane" signs and improve our Drivers' Manual and test.

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Input to the Western Baltimore County Pedestrian and Bicycle Access Plan is going on now! http://www.baltimorespokes.org/article. … 5173706237

Personally I would like to see some "Bikes may use the full lane" signs and improve our Drivers' Manual and test.

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2013 mileage=12,169 miles;
2014 mileage=5,156 miles;
2015  mileage=6,200 miles;
2016 mileage=17,503 miles;

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Thanks Barry.  That is helpful information.

I'm not sure how lights are relevant to my inquiry about advocacy efforts, but sure, they're a great idea too guys.

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Thanks Barry.  That is helpful information.

I'm not sure how lights are relevant to my inquiry about advocacy efforts, but sure, they're a great idea too guys.

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You wrote in the original post:

bbalch1 wrote:

The more I read about these accidents, the more I believe the problem is NOT about how cars pass us once they see us (3 ft. rule people, that's for you).  The problem is getting them to see us before they pass us.

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iodaniell wrote:

They -may- see you earlier if you ran daytime lights bright enough to get their attention.

I'm really a firm believer of this concept.

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Because, you can have all of the laws and bumper stickers and signs that you want; all of the police and motor vehicle operator training and of the bike PSAs you want, but if someone doesn't see you, running into you because you are not conspicuous enough, all of that stuff doesn't keep you from getting dead.
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2013 mileage=12,169 miles;
2014 mileage=5,156 miles;
2015  mileage=6,200 miles;
2016 mileage=17,503 miles;

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good points, all.

It just gets me scared-- which I hardly ever am.....

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iodaniell wrote:

They -may- see you earlier if you ran daytime lights bright enough to get their attention.

I may resort to this.  I already have a rear running daylight visible light (just ask Stuart or some of the other guys at Glenelg ... they complain it blinds them).  Guess I stopped using it during the day when I had a spill and damaged the light.  I cannot truthfully say that I get a wider berth during the day, but I certainly do near or past dusk.  Many times I think the driver thinks I'm a motorcycle and passes completely over the yellow line (what a concept!  but that's another soapbox).  But whether one gets more space during the day is not Isaias point, it's whether or not they see you earlier (or at all).  It's something for me to consider.

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Does anybody know of any efforts having been made to get counties to designate some of the more heavily cycled roads as "cycling routes"? 

My experience is limited to be sure, but I'm not really impressed with how the state designated "bike routes".  My one case is Rt 32 north of Rt 70 (Howard / Carroll counties).  The road width has been wider than most roads of that speed since I was at least 18 (that would be 35 years ago).  So one day a couple of years ago I saw the state put up bike route signs on this road.  No improvements mind you.  And then a year later they added a middle lane (for good reasons, two fatal accidents in 3 months).  But the point is the signs are still there, it's still not a route that most cyclists would ride (right Ed?) and now you have 50 - 60 mph cars going by you with a shoulder at times totally disappearing (no fog line).  So needless to say I don't ride this segment anymore.

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